Study on a healthy Nordic diet

Well again do we have a study that according to the Swedish newspaper  DN.  Proves we should ditch the butter and go for the margarine. So it  is time to try to find the study and see what it says, and how it was done.

A much better article about the study, and in English is at New study on a healthy Nordic diet.

Unfortunately when it came to the study itself. Does it cost to read it at Journal of Internal Medicine. But the abstract has some information.

To begin with, is it an observational or intervention study? It was an intervention, that is good. Did they check for compliance? As much as one can expect when they not inhouse. They used ”4-day food diaries and fatty acid composition of serum phospholipids”. Last thing, means as I understand taking blood samples to verify what they eat.

How about drop outs? ”Altogether 309 individuals were screened, 200 started the intervention after 4-week run-in period, and 96 (proportion of drop outs 7.9%) and 70 individuals (drop outs 27%) completed the study, in the Healthy diet and Control diet groups, respectively”. So it says that they only had 7.9 % drop out in the intervention group. While in the control group did they lose nearly 30 %. Why? Did they die? Then what about the 109 (309-200) that did not continue the study. Why where they excluded? Hopefully is it possible to read that in the full paper.

Who where the subjects? ”individuals with features of metabolic syndrome…..BMI 31.6”. And even though BMI is not a best way to measure health. Do I guess that these where not the average health club visitor.

So did they change one variable for the intervention group. Of course not. The intervention group where to eat following ”A healthy Nordic diet can also be composed according to the principle of locally-sourced foods. Hard animal fat and milk fat are replaced by rapeseed oil and plant oil based margarine, fat-free or low fat dairy products are recommended, eat plenty of domestic seasonal fruits, which in the Nordic countries means apples, pears or plumbs, berries, vegetables, root vegetables, legumes and cabbage, plus wholegrain products made from rye, barley or oats every day. Nuts can also be part of the diet. Eat fish and fatty fish 2–3 times a week, plus game and poultry. Red meat and sausages should be eaten in moderation.”. I used the text from the english article mention above as it was more complete. And it seemed to be written in collaboration  with 2 of those involved in the study.(some of it would any one on low carb agree that it is good for you)

From the abstract: ”An average Nordic diet served as a Control diet” What does that mean? To me does it sound as they asked the control group to change their diet according to the scientist request. If so, not only did they not only change more than one parameter on the intervention group. They actually changed the control group. But to what? Maybe this was the reason of the high drop out with the ”control” group. They could not stomach the diet.

So here we have a group of people who very likely was eating white bread, pasta, french fries, sausages and maybe whatever junk you can imagine. And then changed to eat more vegetables, nuts, fish (even fatty) and so on.

Their weight did not change (if I understand right from other articles, this was on purpose), and ”no significant changes were observed in insulin sensitivity or blood pressure”.

Well! I find it significant that many who starts with LCHF, reports that they can stop, or reduce the insulin and blood pressure lowering drugs. And here nothing happened.

It all boils down to this: An example of a study, that is as you would ask a bunch of smokers who are smoking unfiltered cigarettes to  change to filtered. Also ask them to take up exercising and other changes. Then observe how many get lung cancer. Would you say the filtered protects you from lung cancer? And everybody should start to smoke them.

By the way, noticed the bold text. It is my way of pointing out that the scientists who did this already had an opinion on what is healthy. It makes at least me wondering if they are objective.

Update: diabetes.dochas written in Swedish his findings of reading the full article.


Fat % what about it?

So the word is getting around that BMI is not the best way to define if a person is unhealthy or not. But is a calculation of the body fat better? I assume it should be.

Unfortunately, it is a little hard to measure it. I myself have a scale at home that besides the weight also gives me a fat %, muscle % and water % of my body.

Of course a consumer scale is not something one should trust completly. But I think I can trust it when reporting a change over long time. I think that when I started lower my  weight was the fat closer to 25 % than I think was comfortable, But I do not remember any real values. I do remember that I did see more change as I started with LCHF. That is, the more fat I ate. The more did the fat % decrease. Now I am around 17-18 %.

But what is a good value? And how did they come to know it is good? Looking around on the net did I come accross some data on wikipedia, seen below. On other places did I also find tables that also divided people into age groups.

And guess what. If you are older can you have more fat. Again how did they come to that conclusion? Is it just as with BMI, that you can have high fat %. But by staying fit and excercise regurarly, do you have a better chance in life.

I used to think that gaining some fat with age was normal, not anymore. That it is common yes, but not normal. To me, do I think that is a way of our bodies to tell us something.

And that is that you have started to become ”allergic” to carbohydrates. Because the body do like to regulate itself. And will do good job if you do not give it much work, for a too long time.

Description      Women      Men
Essential fat*    10–13%      2–5%
Athletes            14–20%      6–13%
Fitness             21–24%     14–17%
Average            25–31%      18–24%
Obese              32%+           25%+

*Essential fat is the level below which physical and physiological health would be negatively affected.

How to green the world’s deserts and reverse climate change

This is a fantastic talk by a guy named: Allan Savory
He talks about the problem with deforestation. And how to solve it.
One comment on youtube did say something like ”In your face vegans”
Because that what it is. Some people claim that the meat production is bad for the climate.

This guy proves them wrong To save the land from deforestation, cattle is the answer.
Because clearly slash an burning have not done it.

And the idea to mimic nature is to me fantastic. It how the world evolved.
How to green the world’s deserts and reverse climate change

It is well worth to listen do.

Is the glass half full or half empty?

Today did I find this uplifting talk about positive thinking. Many of the things he talks about, is something I think I felt a lot before. One thing is,, that if you look on things from a positive angle then in general, are you a much more content and therefore happier person.

And it is important to feel content in life. That why the search for more wealth and status always make you unhappy, And makes people to  look into different aspect of Buddhism. Usually run by people who just like to make money

Is the glass half full or half empty? The final proof! Leo Bormans at TEDxGhent


BBC News warning of Processed meat

Again today has it been a warning of eating processed meat, red meat and fat. This time I found the article in BCC News.
They warn that you will die young!!! If you eat the stuff.

To begin with, do I like to say that I agree that one should stay away from processed food. It is just that this does not prove anything.

So let us see what it was. We got a link to the abstract. BMC Medicine where we can get a version of the paper itself.

First thing you can see is that is an observational study. That is they asked people what they for maybe last 6 months. And they check now 13 years later to see how many still lives. It is more to that. But I just give the short version of it.

For me is it no question about it i shit in shit out. If you look at any of this questionairs. And then ask yourself. How accurate would you fill it out? Or maybe, how would others fair? Do you rely think you would write truthfully?

We all know that people underestimate how much we rely eat. And on top of that, is it not that people who want to live healthy, would overestimate some things. While others with other priorities would underestimate same stuff. The mere fact that they would differ in how they over/underestimate things would mean: Who can be sure of anything?

Fundamentally one should ask How could some peoples opinion/memory of past eating have any correlating with what they have eaten and will be eating next coming 10 years?

It seemed a litte odd to me to find that they mixed in high fat suddenly. Till I read the study. And found that they made the assumption that process meat is high fat meat. To me have the sausages been low fat for the last 20 years.

According to the article so ”It showed people who ate a lot of processed meat were also more likely to smoke, be obese and have other behaviours known to damage health.

But of course did the scientist say that they took it in account. Just one slight problem, besides my above mentioning of how the input was gathered. They have not taken in account of the consumption of neither wheat, sugar or other starches.

To end do I just have to link to at the moment the latest blog post that rawfoodsos had. She do not write often, but the stuff is good.

It from there I got the link about the example questionnaire.



Meat pie with no horse but……

Last weeks have been flooding the news about horse meat mixed in to normal beef meat. And of course even though most agree that it is bad. Because one should be able to trust the label.

Some maybe would not like to eat horse. While other like me have no problem with it. But of course not only do I want to be able to trust the label. I also want to be sure that the animal does not contain medications not suitable for human food. This brings to point on how much can we trust processed food.

But at least there are some fun coming out of this. The Icelandic authorities was testing different products and came across a meat pie that luckily did not contain horse.  In fact, it did not contain no meat at all.

Meat pie with no meat


Lubricated bodies

I was not suppose to start this blog to with things that was about me and what I was doing.

But I think that exercising is very important. And it is important for all of us.

I always wanted to walk more than necessary. With that I mean, one should use the stairs instead of the elevator or escalator. I remember once,  when I walked up one of the longest escalators in the Stockholm subway. (University station). One in the study group I was in, where everyone of them was standing. Told me when they got up ”we got to talk” ( had left them there, saying I can not stand still in a escalator.

And I can tell you, I get very irritated when someone is standing on the left, and blocking my way. Because in Stockholm, if you not walking you stand on the right side.

Well I have to adjust when travelling. Different traditions on different places. In Singapore do they put out signs to tell people to do what I consider is right. So I like it. In Moscow does everyone stand one the right. And as a far I can see, not a sign insight. But they have a guard at each escalator. I assume they keep them in line. As for me, I think that the escalators of Moscow, are to long and step to walk all the way. I did it couple of times. And I do understand why I never saw anyone follow my example.

I hope to change this. I have finally started to exercise again. And next time in Moscow will I be in better shape. So I would more often walk up all the way.

A couple of weeks ago did I start something called Bikram yoga. A colleague  suggested it. And it seemed interesting. And I needed to find something. Since I started the LCHF lifestyle had I not done any exercising. And I do believe our bodies should  move around. Otherwise it will get dry and not lubricated. Just as any engine, where the oil gets old.

I liked it, and I wanted to continue. But the cost, and the thought that I maybe would not like it in the long run made me hesitant. Then they same guy said that a gym chain here in Stockholm was also doing it. Well mostly the same. Got another word for it, but otherwise mostly the same. I have not yet tried there version. Will soon I hope.

But I have started to bicycle and use step machine. I hope I do what I think is the thing about walking in staircases. I do low energy exercise training. That is, mostly no cardio.

Of course I will do some cardio. And I will report that. But I will start exercising while still mostly stay on the LCHF track. So I think that some people like to know how it works out when training.

So here it is. Friday, did I eat taco chips and drink pop soda. Otherwise during the weekend did  I so to say behave. And I trained for 50 – 60 min on Saturday and Sunday. And I felt great while doing it. I have not moved a muscle for the last 10 months. Besides just walking. So I far after 2 days of not to hard work out, does my body respond well. And I do look forward to next time.